A Liberal Empiricist Gchat on Daschle, Stimulus, and Condoms
- Alex: the Republicans are just straight up winning the spin battle right now
- and apparently its required that you cheat on your taxes to be considered for Obama's cabinet
- i mean COME ON!
- pull it together
- this is bush league bullshit out of the white house right now
- and then they withdrew the nom?
- after all that
- ouch
- Spike: never admit a mistake
- ever
- that's how you win
- "I didn't pay taxes because I wasn't supposed to pay taxes"
- Tom Daschle is a coward
- always has been
- good man
- coward
- at the end of the day, he was the best man to make sure universal health care could make it through the house
- and senate
- he was the best
- Alex: for sure
- Spike: who pays taxes on their housekeepers?
- no one, that's who
- seriously
- that does not disqualify you from public service
- Alex: universal health care is a fucking pipe dream
- after this political travesty by the dems
- THEY CONTROL GOVERNMENT
- they shouldnt be losing
- Spike: tom daschle is a fucking coward
- he would have been confirmed
- Alex: dems in the house packed this thing with bullshit spending that is useless
- Obama's bill was great
- now the house leadership is acting like the pigs in animal farm
- Spike: kind of
- I mean, it wasn't that bad
- 50 mil for the NEA would be consumed quickly
- I mean, it's not ideal, but it isn't bullshit if the goal is quick consumption and dispersal
- Alex: the goal is a quick decisive bipartisan vote
- THATS IT
- THAT IS ALL
- Spike: well, yeah
- Alex: reid put up more fucking easy targets than I can count
- Spike: the thing is that they were going to shoot at anything
- they want the bill to fail
- so they will force the dems to water it down
- and then they won't vote for it
- so when it fails they have no responsibility
- that's their only move
- they have no other move
- if they want power in 2012
- Alex: no
- you make it about 4 marquis things
- education, roads, broadband, and housing or whatever
- no pet democratic projects from the 70's
- snuck in
- Spike: even if it's that they'll shoot at it
- it doesn't matter
- they have one play
- Alex: of course but they're winning
- Spike: they won't win if we don't water it down and they actually force a cloture vote
- Alex: the bill is getting ugly
- they're shooting down his nominees while holding up what is clearly a democratic bill that is losing popularity
- its bad
- im just really angry at the small percentage of money that wernt to hot-button issues that made easy political targets
- condoms?
- come on
- they didnt see that coming?
- Spike: but they made it about health care
- and that was something they could spend money on that's made in the US
- I mean, there was no way for it to be bulletproof
- Alex: i disagree
- but
- hey
- Spike: so you just have to accept the fact that there is no game theoretic reason for the republicans to get on board and make it happen
- Alex: i can accept that
- Spike: probably fewer condoms
- sure
- whatever
- condoms feel weird
